MONDAY AND FRIDAY BY JOE ENGLAND

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26th Aug 2017, 1:04 PM

Joe England

If you want to make an example of someone, it's best when they're at their best. Rules of rebellion.

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26th Aug 2017, 1:40 PM

Nestor

Just throw her into the Sun if she likes it that much.

Bob!

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26th Aug 2017, 2:32 PM

fishamaphone

Eat her. Just open up your mouth and bite into her flesh. One mouthful at a time. Starting with her arm, then her other arm, then her leg, then maybe a break, then her nose, then her other leg. Nothing says show of force like literally eating the competition. C'mon, Zandra, I know you're hungry.

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26th Aug 2017, 2:51 PM

jonathan wint

Letting the Condemned decide how they are to die? That's Weakness. Put her on a leash and make a pet.

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26th Aug 2017, 3:06 PM

Squirrelmaster

What to do... Oh, I know! Let Black Betty decide! It may be the wrong thing to do, but it'll sure be fun!

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26th Aug 2017, 3:24 PM

Tomtomy

Banishment is a classic in this scenario, but I don't know if Sandra likes that idea. Scarring the bloofer lady might work, it would be "merciful" and it would show Sandra is strong enough not to fear another coup.

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26th Aug 2017, 3:39 PM

DracoExMachina

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26th Aug 2017, 3:54 PM

Umbral Reaver

We've seen how vampires 'kiss'. I have no idea what that would do to a demon.

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26th Aug 2017, 4:11 PM

The_Rippy_One

Aren't Zandra's kisses actually acid? I remember that from somewhere.

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27th Aug 2017, 5:07 AM

Marika Oniki

Yeah, though from what I remember from the beginning of the arc, it has a similar effect on vampires to what Sam's blood does to them.

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27th Aug 2017, 5:45 AM

morfos

I note that Bloo trips on acid. Especially extracted from Zandra.

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29th Aug 2017, 7:05 PM

Magugag

Oh my god.

Did Joe intend this pun the entire time?

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26th Aug 2017, 3:45 PM

Dainpdf

Sandra has already done plenty tonight to show off her power. She repelled an attack by a lot of vamps, broke away from the chains... All she needs to do now is impress upon her subjects that she represents rule of law.
She's got the fear component down, she just needs to not seem needlessly cruel. Just put Bloo down quickly. Hard to seem weak when you've just fought a dozen of them and come out unscathed.

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26th Aug 2017, 4:07 PM

Ahakarin

Meh.

No need to validate the rebels by ending the war on their terms. Exploiting a clear, strategic advantage just goes to prove that a leader who shuts down for half the day can't be trusted to lead or protect her followers.

It's not Sandra's fault Bloo couldn't win within her supernaturally enforced time limit.

As Sandra says, she's -almost- got a point... just like she -almost- won. A nice try, but I say she should be staked then given a "trial".

... Unless staking a vampire kills them in this mythos, but... Eh, still. Whatever.

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26th Aug 2017, 4:15 PM

The_Rippy_One

Well, it's only pitiful if it's clear that your enemy can't fight back - if Bloo weren't a vamp, I'd say Zandra should TK FIRE her beautiful corpse - doesn't matter how strong you are if you still go up like a marshmallow. given that immolation isn't available...forced infusion to sleep Bloo, and beat her senseless, coliseum style, tomorrow night?

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26th Aug 2017, 7:31 PM

redscarf

My suggestion? Truly show of your Lady Of Shadows powers Zandra. Block out the SUN and FIGHT in the SHADE!

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27th Aug 2017, 9:20 AM

McG

Liking... Liking...

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26th Aug 2017, 6:38 PM

Leif

What if Zandra somehow makes Bloo human again. How afraid would Bloo be by the thought that she would have to live a normal life again?

Removing someone's source of empowerment could be an incredible show of power. Also, Bloo seems like the most likely one to make more vampires so kinda a double win for Zandra.

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26th Aug 2017, 10:59 PM

ZB

I believe the technical term for that sort of thing is an "ass-pull".

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26th Aug 2017, 6:55 PM

NIMROD

Well, we have the who, what, where, when, and even the why... that is something. But the "how" now that is what makes the difference.

Oddly, it is HOW things were done that tend to stick with people... even if the outcome is the same.

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26th Aug 2017, 9:07 PM

Epsilon Rose

Does Zandra control the cloud cover? Because that sun might not be coming out any time soon.

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26th Aug 2017, 9:18 PM

PharmaDan

I would suggest the old ZG classic of; "You. Fire. Now!"

Though I do suppose that was more of a Jack thing.

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27th Aug 2017, 1:05 AM

Dainpdf

Well she did light up that one guy who had a fight with his wife the day after Halloween.

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26th Aug 2017, 11:45 PM

F. N.

Bloo's logic here is totally flawed, and if Zandra has even a modicum of intelligence she should see that.

1) Zandra doesn't have to "prove" anything to anyone.
2) The sun hasn't fully risen yet; Zandra should just chop her into pieces right now, instead of wasting time talking.
3) Killing Bloo, helpless or not, will send a messasge. "If you screw with me, you die. Don't expect being helpless to be grounds for a mercy appeal".

I see absolutely no downside to just ending this farce right now. Seriously, will anybody on the ground make disapproving noises if she just rips Bloo to pieces on the spot?

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27th Aug 2017, 12:01 AM

NoRAd

Proooooobably the cop?

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27th Aug 2017, 1:06 AM

Dainpdf

In any case, she proved he might both by snapping free from the chains and by repelling the assault of the juiced up vampires with only her tail.

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26th Aug 2017, 11:57 PM

Mr. Casual

Bloo only did this because she's bored with "unlife". Just send her off with Betty to wherever Betty travels. Could be somewhere like Zandra was trapped before.

Bloo wouldn't be bored anymore! And she'd be out of Sandra's hair.

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27th Aug 2017, 12:17 AM

CelekDraco

I say gift her to Black Betty. It'd show that Zandra doesn't consider Bloo worth her time and also that she rewards allies.

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27th Aug 2017, 1:07 AM

Dainpdf

I think that qualifies as cruel and unusual punishment.

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27th Aug 2017, 2:18 AM

Samurai Eagle

I would think it "Just Deserts."

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27th Aug 2017, 5:50 AM

morfos

I once played a medieval town-building game. It had random problems every once in a while that required me to make judgment or pass sentence...basically a morality gauge.

One of those random problems was Robin Hood. Robin Hood was a pain in the ass. He'd make trouble, he'd get caught, I'd try showing him mercy (because Robin Hood), and he'd escape and cause more trouble.

I eventually just executed him. It was so much simpler.

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27th Aug 2017, 5:56 AM

Xander

Zandra could claim Bloo's soul has she did with Broadshoulders.
He turned out well enough for him, she might reform too someday...

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28th Aug 2017, 12:31 AM

Dainpdf

Well, that was a pretty specific situation. Maybe she can't, lacking a portal to Hell? Also, her ability to do it may have depended on her identifying as a demon back then.
As a third concern, her friends may not be cool with it. Even Zandra herself seemed to regret what she did to broadshoulders when they met for the last time.

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27th Aug 2017, 9:35 AM

Brett Bellmore

So, this is where she blots the Sun out from the sky, and THEN slices Bloo up?

That would suitably impress the vampires.

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27th Aug 2017, 12:12 PM

Archone

I'm probably going to get some flak for this, but...

...I think Zandra should make a point of NOT killing Bloo. Or even seriously hurting her or punishing her. Not because she hasn't hurt people, not because she doesn't deserve it. Because Bloo WANTS to be killed, she WANTS Zandra to be a monster.

This is Zandra's opportunity to show the rest of her group that they can still be decent and good. To give them proof that just because they're not human doesn't mean they can't be civilized and moral.

(And it would be the ultimate rebuttal to... everyone, who has been trying to get her to be evil throughout the course of the series. Broadshoulders and all the rest)

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27th Aug 2017, 3:01 PM

Web_mst3k

In Sandra's place I would ask Bloo, "Is this how you choose to end it?" (This is on you, not me.) A moment before Mister Sun does the barbecue thing, I would say, "I forgive you." Only the winner gets to issue pardons in this situation, only the one who has transgressed needs to be forgiven. It would also be a demonstration of the rule of justice and mercy, not of fear and retribution.

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28th Aug 2017, 12:35 AM

Dainpdf

Being evil and keeping order are not the same. Machiavelli writes about it at length - people should fear the Prince, but not hate him; if punishment is commensurate with the crime, it discourages people from disobeying, but does not incite them into rebellion against unfair/cruel conditions.
I do understand wanting to deny Bloo the suicide by cop, though. It's not a good precedent to set.
To WEB_MST3K, I'm not sure the sun actually fries them. I think it just makes them very lethargic.

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29th Aug 2017, 10:44 AM

Web_mst3k

I see two problems about the fear thing. 1) Those who set out to maintain order by being feared often end up hated as well. 2) Since the Big Z just sliced a pack of vampires into cold cuts, the fear angle should already be well covered. Given that, loyalty would be best reinforced by gaining her followers' trust at this point in time. I recall a Heinlein novel, "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress," in which one of the characters argues against offing a captured bad guy because it is easier to correct your mistake if he is alive than it it would be if he was dead.

"Being evil and keeping order are not the same."

I was not arguing from ethics, I was arguing from politics. Being seen as the party not at fault is the important part regardless of who is at fault under these circumstances. Being acknowledged as the winner and having Bloo acknowledged as the transgressor would cement Sandra's position as the leader. Actually being the good guy is merely the cherry on top of the sundae.

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27th Aug 2017, 1:16 PM

Lyn

I'm betting on something like Zandra doing a GO TO YOUR ROOM YOUNG LADY and using her demon abilities to enforce her will upon Bloo.

I think that would be the most effective thing - to see that she's still in complete control when she chooses to be, and can utterly negate defiance when it annoys her enough.

Also it would amuse me endlessly.

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27th Aug 2017, 10:57 PM

Novalyyn

Sign of weakness? Under the present circumstances, it's a sign of giving no mercy. Bloo's just lucky Zandra would rather be merciful.

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28th Aug 2017, 7:05 AM

lurkergao

I think she should cut off bloo's hands and feet and lock her her in a room with a tv. Also possibly put her dismembered followers in there as well. It will be their punishment for bad behavior for now. Also solves the problem of having too many vampires to manage properly.

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29th Aug 2017, 10:16 AM

Quantumloop

I don't know, maybe send Bloo for a walkabout in the Subfusc? A little time with those denizens might do her some good.

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30th Aug 2017, 5:39 AM

Siva

I think Bloo came up with the idea herself: a long flight into deep space. High as a kite when she's sent out, with something aboardship keeping her attention from tracking which direction she came from. She is meant to get free - and be unable to rely on the direction the thrusters are pointing being the way back to Earth.

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30th Aug 2017, 11:03 AM

Sensei Le Roof

She wants to get free, right into the sun?

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30th Aug 2017, 6:41 AM

CyberSkull

Somehow I suspect that killing the Bloopher Lady was never the plan.

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2nd Sep 2017, 9:35 AM

The_Rippy_One

Zandra harem sub-text upgraded to text?

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31st Aug 2017, 9:46 PM

mike

http://www.zebragirl.thecomicseries.com/comics/620 Does Bloofer still remind Sandra of an earlier self?

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2nd Sep 2017, 6:16 AM

Ace Dreamer

OK, we've seen werewolf mixed with vampire, we've seen a book turned into a lady, we've got Sam who is Zandra's alternate here. I'm sure there's enough resources, particularly if you throw in Black Betty, to change our attempted martyr into something that has a lot more choice in her existence than being a vampire on a permanent LSD trip.

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2nd Sep 2017, 6:18 AM

Ace Dreamer

OK, we've seen werewolf mixed with vampire, we've seen a book turned into a lady, we've got Sam who is Zandra's alternate here. I'm sure there's enough resources, particularly if you throw in Black Betty, to change our attempted martyr into something that has a lot more choice in her existence than being a vampire on a permanent LSD trip.

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