MONDAY AND FRIDAY BY JOE ENGLAND

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19th Mar 2018, 12:28 AM

Joe England

Some would say the only reason that Romeo and Juliet died united in young love is because they didn’t have time to grow out of it. Zandra and Mike have come a long way since once upon a time.

-Joe

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COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE

19th Mar 2018, 12:10 AM

BattyBams

I find it a little funny that Jack's magic zapped Mike into a lady body. Comic 772 Mike said something along the lines of "is it worse for a woman to be trapped in the body of a man, or a man in the body of a woman?"

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19th Mar 2018, 12:30 AM

Dainpdf

Good catch! Plus, the "tiny violin" line is the previous page is even better in that context. Can't believe I missed that parallel.

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19th Mar 2018, 12:29 AM

Dainpdf

I really want to take this scene with the seriousness it deserves, but that hair makes it impossible.

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19th Mar 2018, 2:40 AM

Not a Dog

Does Zandra get to reconcile with her mother before the comic ends? She's spent the last few years making excuses not to visit, or being incommunicado.

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19th Mar 2018, 7:29 AM

Peter Piers

Funny, I thought the same thing a couple of days ago. Her mother seems like something that drifted away, like part of her old life. I wouldn't be surprised if we never heard any more of her. I guess Sandra's mother is not Zandra's mother, emotionally. I hope I'm wrong.

Mr. Chalk, now... That guy I think deserves an ending. :) I'm still puzzling over what he says on the first or second time he appears, something like "Haven't you figured out what I am yet? I'm sure THEY have". I'm pretty sure "THEY" would be us, the readers, and I still haven't gotten it. The "passing voice in your head" doesn't satisfy me. Is he a part of Sandra's subconscious? A passing ghost/demon? Sandra didn't want to see him clearly at first, what does that mean? Where did he come from? If he's a voice in Sandra's head, what was his genesis? Heck, I'd settle for Sandra turning out to have had a special doll called "Mr. Chalk" when she was a kid, that'd give meaning to the character.

...ah, I kinda hijacked your point. Sorry. Yeah, Sandra's Mother, How About That, Huh?

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19th Mar 2018, 10:33 PM

Random Reader

You are not the only one who doesn't know what's up with Mr Chalk. And yet I feel it's something that will seem blatantly obvious in hindsight.

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21st Mar 2018, 7:45 AM

Grantman

Mr. Chalk is God.

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19th Mar 2018, 11:49 PM

Guest

He's Lord Incubus, S/Zandra's demon father. From page 6. Revelation on page 583.

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19th Mar 2018, 11:55 PM

Guest

noooo i remembered it wrong.

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19th Mar 2018, 9:19 PM

Shade

I'd love to see that plot point wrapped up too. Maybe the last panel of the comic will be Zandra picking up the phone, dialing, and the speech bubble says, "Hi, Mom."

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19th Mar 2018, 10:00 AM

Muse

I mean, Mike could still be a 'he' and live as a trans man, but I get the feeling they're too much of an essentialist to consider that possibility.

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19th Mar 2018, 9:22 PM

Shade

I do like that this issue is being treated for the most part with sensitivity since it does have a lot of real-world parallels. That being said, Mike has always had a lot of pride, and it appears he might think that being a woman is a step down, especially since he didn't have a choice in the matter. I wonder if he'll continuously fight against what he's become, or if like Zandra, he'll learn to evolve into a new being. Either way, it's going to be a long, rocky road for him.

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19th Mar 2018, 10:32 PM

Random Reader

I don't normally get into this kind of discussion as it can be such a sensitive topic and it's so easy to take things the wrong way on the internet, but I do feel there's one thing that should be said.

We can't forget there are some characters who, by their established personality, would not be above using whatever terminology irritates Mike the most as a kind of passive-aggressive payback for his role in the vampocalypse. And that these characters may not always reflect the views of the author. (For example, Sally calling Mike "sister" I felt was more about "You didn't help me when I was possessed, jackhole, so I'll rub it in." and less about how she feels on gender identity issues.)

Does that mean such actions are right? Probably not. But stories would get pretty boring if all characters were perfectly good or evil. Good characters have flaws just like real people. Great characters come to recognize these flaws and attempt to overcome them (to varying degrees of success, depending on the work in question). But if every character has the same opinion or reacts the same way to a particular issue, it gets kind of bland. Variety is what makes life interesting, and the same is true for stories.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that while certain issues are important, especially in real life, sometimes...a story is just a story. It's not meant to be a secret political message or a commentary on society. Sometimes it's pure entertainment, and the details given are the ones meant to enhance the experience. So maybe we shouldn't think too much and just enjoy the ride. I know that's what I intend to do.

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19th Mar 2018, 11:23 PM

Muse

Well, not quite. No media is apolitical/in a social vaccuum. You're right in the individual character actions aren't always a reflection of the author, but what the story /frames/ as moral, correct, or normal is as much of a message to the audience as the plot. And especially for marginalized people, having to be on guard IRL and then when consuming media too is a death-by-a-thousand-cuts to morale. Escapism is great, and it's totally possible for a work to have flaws and still be enjoyed, but it's important not to gloss over messages that are harmful to people in pursuit of that.

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20th Mar 2018, 8:52 PM

K

I'm relieved to see my thoughts (speaking as a transperson) were echoed somewhere here

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23rd Mar 2018, 6:25 AM

Peter Piers

FWIW, Random Reader... I completely, absolutely and totally agree. I'll refrain from saying much more because I have a history of putting my foot in my mouth on this topic, and expressing myself in an alienating way... but I absolutely agree.

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19th Mar 2018, 10:25 PM

Woozle

"For the most part..."

I like to imagine a future where Mike grows up and the two of them get a relationship where they truly know each other's darkest faults and still love each-other.

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21st Mar 2018, 9:12 PM

Trailblazer

I just wanted to say, I read this comic back in the early 2000s and stumbled across the Tv tropes page the other day. Found out it was still going and I binge read everything over the last few days. So glad to see that it's getting a proper ending, and it's been a joy to read!

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21st Mar 2018, 11:50 PM

Joe England

Glad to have you back for the end, Trailblazer! Thanks for revisiting.

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22nd Mar 2018, 6:59 PM

Andrew_C

I think I first read this comic 12 years ago. I've Been reading it on and off since then. It's been an amazing, funny, wild and often confusing read.

I glad that I checked again in before it ended so I could say thank you for giving us this wonderful story.

Now I'm going to go on a proper archive trawl, to pick up on all the things I missed the first time around.

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22nd Mar 2018, 7:16 PM

Joe England

Thanks, Andrew. That means a lot to hear!

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