MONDAY AND FRIDAY BY JOE ENGLAND

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25th May 2018, 10:37 PM

Joe England

Hmm.

I'm terribly sorry for making everyone wait today. Although, ironically, I'm not nearly as sorry that I'll be making you wait even longer for the next page!

In accordance with tradition ("tradition" being a very loose term), I'll be taking Monday off in observance of Memorial Day ("observance" being a loose term as well). And of course "off" is similarly loose, since I'll still be working like a slave to keep to this ruthless schedule I've shackled myself to. If you could see me you would behold a wretched thing, sleep deprived and stinking to high Heaven. Thank God for holiday weekends. They save my life every time.

And, of course, I thank the many men and women who gave their all in service to my country. I hope you enjoy your day off (if it's observed in your particular sphere), and spare at least a thought now and then to the underpinnings.

You know, it wasn't until I decided to make a point of observing every observance in Zebra Girl's final months that I realized just how many of them there are. The calendar's crowded.

Time flies. Just look at Zandra. She's already got a kid on her claws.

-Joe

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25th May 2018, 10:37 PM

Guest

Something tells me she never did, but to break Clarity's heart like that would be worse than any curse.

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28th May 2018, 2:05 PM

not a dog

Yeah. And this epilogue appears to be set much later than the end of the last story arc, based on how Sandra's position is solidified and recognized, and how she speaks of Crystal and her mother in the past tense. So no opportunity exists to make things right with her mother.

I wonder how far out we are, time-wise?

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25th May 2018, 10:37 PM

CrankyCat

Ok, who else here wants to see Sandra and Betty play Twister?

It's nice that Sandra makes time for her friends :-)

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26th May 2018, 7:31 PM

TheRippyOne

*raises hand*

*raises hand HARD*

XD

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27th May 2018, 5:31 PM

Guest

I am more curious which version they use. Does it use tails? Might not be so fair to Betty... Ears would be trouble for Sandra but a waste for Betty to go without. Do hooves count as feet? Maybe it has different rules for each participant...

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25th May 2018, 10:40 PM

NoemZ

Oh that Twister line made me laugh out loud!

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25th May 2018, 10:55 PM

Ellie

There's her halo!!

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25th May 2018, 10:56 PM

TheHiddenElephant

So I am correct in assuming that Clarity is Michelle (formerly Mike)'s and Zandra's kid?

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26th May 2018, 2:19 PM

Brett Bellmore

"So I am correct in assuming that Clarity is Michelle (formerly Mike)'s and Zandra's kid?"

I guess that would be the assumption, but I don't see how it works. Mike was a vampire, and I don't think undead can knock you up. And now they're both female.

Magic, I suppose.

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26th May 2018, 4:43 PM

TheHiddenElephant

Plus, y'know, Zandra's bodily fluids are acidic. Unless Mikey wanted his dick dissolved off, something is up. Plus the kid appears human, so IDK?

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27th May 2018, 11:47 PM

winger

could be you know adoppted or sommething? and before some one said how mike is now a girl its now a girl now mike was a guy

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27th May 2018, 4:05 PM

Gaisa

Newp, thats Michelle in frame five

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27th May 2018, 4:06 PM

Gaisa

Ugh, ignore my last post, misread your initial post, and dunno.

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25th May 2018, 11:07 PM

Kaza

oh...zandra never did talk to her mom, did she? i'm sad now :(

on the other hand, there's a serious implication that zandra has played twister with betty before, and i love that :D

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26th May 2018, 12:02 AM

Dragoniangirl

I love the little detail of Zandra kissing her hand when kissing Clarity goodnight.

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26th May 2018, 1:39 AM

Joe England

Good, I was hoping that it would be clear what was happening.

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26th May 2018, 2:08 AM

Fafnir13

The acidic kiss scars are how you know mommy loves you?

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26th May 2018, 9:33 AM

Dainpdf

Mom is just helping you develop a resistance.

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27th May 2018, 11:48 PM

winger

hand she kissed her own hand that was on clarity's head

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26th May 2018, 10:54 AM

Casewerker

It was certainly clear to me, and I thought it was a clever and heartwarming way to address that particular motherhood challenge.

That said, lying as she did here is also one of those ways mothers sometimes address challenges. I can't help but wonder whether she told her and it went badly, or if she never told her at all.

Also, Aunt Michelle's dress is very cool.

Also: Betty is Betty, and we love her for it.

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26th May 2018, 12:15 AM

PoignardAzur

ALSO MOMS NEVER EVER LIE TO THEIR DAUGHTER. UH UH.

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26th May 2018, 12:51 AM

Thormation

Betty sure has legs that won't quit...mostly because they are 900% muscle. Ye Gods, how do you build up hams like that when you are floating all the time?!

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26th May 2018, 1:27 AM

Joe England

Pook don't float, actually. They're kind of like Hummingbirds. They just jump up and down so incredibly quickly that to the naked eye it looks like they're suspended in mid-air. Naturally, pumping their legs hundreds of times per second provides a phenomenal workout.

Of course, that's a joke, but in hindsight it's arguably more reasonable than floating like a balloon. Levitation really is one of the sillier superpowers.

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26th May 2018, 2:21 PM

Brett Bellmore

" Levitation really is one of the sillier superpowers."

I liked the way it worked for wizards in the Diskworld series; They had to consciously balance all the forced just right, or else any unbalanced force would cause your brain to squirt out your ear.

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26th May 2018, 1:04 AM

chaotik74

well..crap. Now i'm gonna be left wondering if she neve rhad the guts to talk to her...or if she DID, and something went horribly wrong. Prolly never gonna find out either.

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26th May 2018, 2:23 AM

Mr. Casual

Well, Mike (if he/she still goes by that) has certainly adapted. And that hair. XD

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26th May 2018, 2:38 AM

Pyre

Ugh the embracing of the bustiness of his/her figure with that outfit. Just awesome...and so is that the hair has not been tamed!

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26th May 2018, 4:51 AM

Auron

Pretty sure she's the Aunt Michelle mentioned in the previous page.

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26th May 2018, 1:05 PM

Mr. Casual

Ah, you are right. I glossed-over the "Aunt Michelle" mention.

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26th May 2018, 5:18 AM

Nestor

Hmm, pants on fire, Zandra...

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28th May 2018, 12:33 PM

Starcat5

That is why she is wearing a dress. ;p

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26th May 2018, 7:27 AM

Xel Unknown

Yey, more of best character Black Betty! :3

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26th May 2018, 9:39 AM

Dainpdf

Poor Zandra. No mom, no Crystal, and she named named her kid one of those new age names.
At least she'll always have Twister!

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26th May 2018, 12:32 PM

Casewerker

It's notable that Clarity is also Jack and Crystal's last name. Coincidence? I think not.

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26th May 2018, 4:47 PM

Joe England

You're right. It most certainly is not a coincidence.

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29th May 2018, 2:47 PM

V.V.V.

Did Jack... have a brain child?

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26th May 2018, 10:38 AM

Bitter Pill

So how did Zandra ending up with a daughter come about? I'm guessing adoption, considering acidic body fluid would have otherwise dissolved her in the womb... and wouldn't THAT have been pleasant. X_X

Still very curious about how she ended up with a daughter though.

And Mr. Chalk, if we're ever going to learn more about him, or if he will remain an enigmatic character.

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26th May 2018, 4:04 PM

Hangover Included

I have to admit, I'm still not clear on why Michelle gets to hang around as part of the freak family.
I get that there was a conscious decision that getting magic-zapped was supposed to somehow even the karmic scales, but it's not like she's ever done anything *nice* for anyone.
I kinda feel like she's been basically nothing but a villain, at least since Zandra stopped wearing that insane monk robe.
Did they invite Doyenne and Gregor to move in too?

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26th May 2018, 4:06 PM

Hangover Included

On a peripherally related topic, I kinda miss Doyenne. I wonder if we'll get to hear what she's up to.

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27th May 2018, 1:30 AM

Piebald

"uncle Gregor" just doesn't have the same ring to it

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27th May 2018, 2:21 AM

Hangover Included

It totally has a ring to it!
It's just kind of like an Addams Family sort of mournful gothic toll. like church bells ringing at a funeral kinda thing.

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27th May 2018, 6:53 PM

Piebald

Now I'm imagining Gregor looming over guests in the monster house like "you rang?"

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28th May 2018, 2:01 PM

not a dog

I'm much more concerned about why Mike is now Michelle. It's irresponsible to simply flip everything about the character, if the process by which they came to that choice is not mentioned at all, even in an offhand comment.

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29th May 2018, 1:25 AM

Zander

Well the earlier epilogue page did imply that they became friend (sometimes with benefits) and Zandra is willing to forgive cause she knows how becoming a monster can make you crazy/evil. But after so many years it's water under the bridge. Plus Michelle was probably around while her daughter was growing up this the aunt title...this also implies that Wally and Jack weren't.

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29th May 2018, 1:29 PM

Dae

Michelle has kinda been integral to the comic from a meta perspective- their intrigued outsider view epitomizes the themes for a lot of the comic's lifespan.

He kind of grew into his own entity proper down the line, and took a sinister turn, just as the comic itself did.

His physical transformation, I think, is itself kinda metaphorical, with the story both coming full circle with its themes of transformation and identity, as well as making a clear point that, in this world, curses and transformation are going to be a common thing from this point on.

Our S/Zandra is here to help,and Michelle is again the first to fully embrace the Dark Empress's influence. But this time, in a healthy way.

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26th May 2018, 5:15 PM

Pseudo

CALL YOUR MOM, Zandra! It’s never too late, until it is.

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26th May 2018, 7:35 PM

TheRippyOne

At this point, it kind of is - if Crystal was a great grandma, then it's been at least 50 years (and that's with teen pregnancies), and Zandra's mama was not a spring chicken when we started.

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27th May 2018, 2:02 AM

Valentine

The implication is that Zandra is lying to hide something unpleasant. It could be that she never talked to her mom. Or maybe she did, but her mom didn't recognize Zandra as her daughter, which led to unpleasantness of a different sort. Considering that Zandra has her head screwed on decently well at the end of the main story, it seems odd to me that she would run away from the issue for decades. Or maybe her mother died suddenly during her exile, and they never had the chance to reconnect. Some things don't work out well even if you have your act together, so whatever happened might not have been Zandra's fault. It seems that we're unlikely to get the details though.

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26th May 2018, 7:31 PM

Thorin N. Tatge

I suspect Black Betty would be a lot of fun and potentially very dangerous to play Twister with.

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27th May 2018, 6:48 AM

jonathan wint

I think its clear that's jacks descendent Or Crystals. But as for Zandra body fluids she had sex with Michael. So kissing her kids not a issue my guess is with her increased power she can control all her molecules so she can control her Acid.. Remember she not a Badly Demon anymore she a Badly Demon Lord !

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27th May 2018, 6:51 AM

jonathan wint

Spelling Nazis its a cell phone and autocorrect. *baby demon *baby demon lord..

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31st May 2018, 2:37 AM

Auron

Or she does burn people and it's just vampires regenerate.

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27th May 2018, 7:08 AM

jonathan wint

PS who is Mr chalk .. Oh I think we all know who he is. 1 of two suspects really. One God that's who she was asking to see when he showed up once.The other is well there an Eve so there must be a Serpent that smiled on her.

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27th May 2018, 6:54 PM

Piebald

I thought he was the devil?

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27th May 2018, 8:16 PM

Kwyjor

I have no doubt that all parties would much prefer these last pages to be done properly rather than posted according to some ruthless schedule.

(That is, at least as long as the pages are ultimately finished.)

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27th May 2018, 9:33 PM

Shade

Ouch. I was hoping for a better resolution between Zandra and her mother, but with how bittersweet this epilogue has been, it was bound to happen this way. I'm sure we're all gonna speculate until the live long hours of the day on what ultimately happened, but here's my take on it.

Sandra's mother had her daughter suddenly and abruptly stop visiting in person, instead only giving evasive answers over the phone as to why communication stopped. Then one day she just ceases to call, write, or make any sign she's still alive. I'm sure her mother frantically contacted Crystal and Jack, who probably did not have a satisfactory answer as to why Sandra was suddenly gone. Her mother waits as the years tick by, agonized and wondering where her daughter is, if maybe something horrible happened to her, or if she's even dead. Horrible mental thumbscrews to put a person through.

Then one day she gets a call. Her daughter has come back! She has some reasons for disappearing that she wants to tell her mother in person. And I'm sure her mother built up this grand image of their reunion in her mind, but in person, she's greeted with this *thing* she's never seen before in her life. Remember, we've become inoculated to Zandra's appearance over the years, especially with all the other weird stuff that has happened, but to an outsider, she still looks like a hideous monster. Sandra's mother can't cope with the shock. So she tells herself that this is not her daughter, not even a shadow of her daughter. This is a disappointment beyond anything she could have imagined. So she rejects her completely, preferring the fantasy world she's come up with where her daughter will return to her safe, sound, and exactly the same as she was someday.

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27th May 2018, 9:49 PM

Guest

Huh. Mike took to his new form quite well, huh? Kind of a shame, I sorta wanted to see if his old self was retained in this new identity. Or to see if his relationship with Zandra was beyond "friends".

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28th May 2018, 6:35 AM

morfos

Shaenon, the artist of Skin Horse, has a side site she does called Horror Every Day, in which she finds a holiday for every day of the year and reviews a corresponding horror movie. ("Are all these movies good?" "Oh gosh no. But I recommend all of them to the adventurous viewer.")

If you thought there were a lot of holidays BEFORE...

http://www.horrormovie.today/

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28th May 2018, 7:22 AM

E_voyager

Scary as she may act and appear Becky seems like she would be a fun gal to hang out with. At least if she's not trying to hurt you for some reason.

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28th May 2018, 1:35 PM

Guest

Well that's not heartbreaking.

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29th May 2018, 1:02 AM

Zander

I wonder how many years have gone by? Enough that Crystal has passed as well as why the little girl doesn't know her grandma. Also Aunt Michelle but no uncle Jack or Wally? With there lifespans they should still be around did they just all drift apart after Crystal died...though honestly she is the only one that would tie them all together cause sandra never seemed like she would be friends with jack even when this first started.

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29th May 2018, 2:23 AM

Valentine

Making some actuarial assumptions, it's rather unlikely to be less than fifty years. Seventy years would give a reasonable span to fit great-grandmotherhood and enough time for Zandra to speak of Crystal's death calmly. It could be a lot longer though. It's probably still in the same age of magic that was dawning at the end of the main story, however long those last.

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30th May 2018, 7:47 AM

Destrustor

I'm not convinced it's been this long.
The line about Crystal being a grandmother was a hypothetical, a vision of a possible future.
I can't find a mention of that having already happened, only that this was the path Zandra chose.
I suppose it's been at least ten years or so, but fifty seems a bit much.
For all we know, Crystal, Wally, Sam, Jack and Tomie are just off on their own somewhere, living that life Zandra wished for them. They probably visit often, but I doubt they stay in Miscellaneous 100% of the time. They're all busy people with things to do.
Also, for what it's worth, Betty seems too fickle and flighty to just hang around for fifty+ years, though I guess it might be in her nature to surprise me on that point too.

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30th May 2018, 1:05 PM

Zander

He loved her as she "was" instead of "is" implies past tense. And when used to describe a person sounds like you speaking of some one past. Plus the way she was talking about how crystal was never cursed (sounding like that option passed) and not a wizard or vampire or werewolf (all immortal or long lived) implies she has passed.

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30th May 2018, 7:39 PM

Destrustor

All those statements could be both A)true and B)spoken of in the past tense, even as close as two months after the big fight.
All they indicate for sure is that they chose this path for Crystal, and that decision can have been made three seconds ago for all we know.
And the past tense in "loving her as she was" still does not explicitly mean it's something that no longer happens. Consider this: "when I was a kid, my favorite pie flavor was cherry." That sentence does not explicitly lead to "now it's not", it can also lead to "and it still is".
The way I see it, she could simply mean "Wally loved her exactly as she was back then, so he decided(back then) not to change her."
In my mind, the past tense in that phrase is entirely neutral regarding her present state, just like saying "I was alive in 1998" says nothing about whether or not I currently am alive in 2018.
Basically I'm reserving judgement of Crystal's aliveness until we can directly observe her being either dead or alive. Schrodinger's Crystal, if you will.

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8th Jun 2018, 10:11 AM

Zander

Its not just the past tense that's a clue. If Wally, crystal and jack were visiting all the time. Then they would probably be addressed as Uncle and Aunt just like Michelle. But they aren't. Plus if it hasn't been that long then her mom would still be alive or at least alive for some of the time after Zandra's daughter was born but then that lie she said to her daughter wouldn't make sense as if she brought her mom to the house and all was good then her daughter would have seen her at some point so it obvious that the mom has passed. So at the very least for the lie to work her mom had to pass of old age meaning at least some significant time passed...unless your also going to make the stretch that a unmentioned accident happened and the mom died young.

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