MONDAY AND FRIDAY BY JOE ENGLAND

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1st Jun 2018, 1:59 PM

Joe England

I guess anyone can change with the proper encouragement. But, wait, who is that?? Why, it must be someone who strayed from the tour group.

Hey, I hope you all had a nice Memorial Day. Looking back, it really is worthwhile to take some time to appreciate what we have, and how we got it, and who worked hard so that we could have it. Perspective is important.

Just look at Zandra (or "Khazandra," as she's now known in certain circles). Her life's an open book.

-Joe

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1st Jun 2018, 1:53 PM

Novalyyn

That outline. Those lines by the mouth. Is Chalk actually being addressed? :o

...I really thought you had hoped to sweep him under the rug. I'd have accepted that, but I'm happy for this, however it goes.

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1st Jun 2018, 2:01 PM

Joe England

I live under the rug, Novalyyn. It's my base of operations.

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1st Jun 2018, 2:31 PM

JasonAW3

Hey! It may be dusty, but at least it's warm!

Seriously, I hope you'll start up another web comic eventually. You've done a fantastic job with this one, and I hope to see more from you in the not too distant future!

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2nd Jun 2018, 2:55 AM

redscarf

Well, I can see why you wouldn't want Chalk ending up there. He's kinda creepy.

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3rd Jun 2018, 11:47 PM

Dae

So... After all these years, your true identity is that of a Dust Bunny.

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4th Jun 2018, 1:53 PM

Matt [in Middletown]

"So you've become one with the rugness, eh? You merely adopted being under the rug where as I was born under it!" -Dust Bunny Bane
;-)

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1st Jun 2018, 2:51 PM

Leak

Looks more like he got promoted from "outline" to "fill"...

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1st Jun 2018, 6:28 PM

Diego Nei

I am not surprised he showed up. I am though, bitting my nails to know what's he gonna talk about!

Attention to detail, thy name is Joe English.

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1st Jun 2018, 2:06 PM

CrankyCat

Oh look, Jack and Tomie had a novella.

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1st Jun 2018, 2:30 PM

Starcat5

Not to mention that Crystal and Wally had puppies. I mean, we already knew that they had offspring, but they clearly inherited Wally's "curse" without Crystal being "infected".

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1st Jun 2018, 3:37 PM

Zander

Well if his children are werewolves then they should get his life span. Probably a good thing cause I thought it would be sad if wally outlived his kids and grand kids.

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4th Jun 2018, 8:13 AM

Andrew_C

Are you sure that's not just a romper suit/babygro the baby's wearing?

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5th Jun 2018, 1:44 AM

Joe England

The baby is wearing a cute little suit, yes. Which is not to necessarily say that they AREN'T werewolves, mind you.

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2nd Jun 2018, 6:31 PM

Sylfa

Oh thanks for pointing that out, I must admit I missed the book they were holding. That makes sense, but makes me a bit confused about the mechanics involved...

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3rd Jun 2018, 12:51 AM

pyrodice

Sadly, little novella had to have its appendix out before chapter 5.

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1st Jun 2018, 2:26 PM

Fafnir13

Chalk! Chalk! Chalk?

On a more serious note, I’m worried about the potentially detrimental effects of the new rabbit person population. That’s a lot of kids with Sam and Mary, most likely due to high numbers being born at once. For regular rabbits, the large litter size is necessary due to the heavy predation the species would suffer. While I suspect a rabbit person would be more susceptible to predation (they demonstrably smell like rabbits so would likely trigger predation from animals that are more cautious with humans), any living in urban areas would be safe. This would lead to a population boom, even if most rabbit person couples chose to only give birth once.
Rabbit persons are smaller, meaning food and housing requirements would be less than that of an equivalent number of humans, but adding this in at the same time as a massive influx of magical denizens is going to cause serious problems in many areas. Given a number of decades, most cities will probably have rabbit person ghettos (probably refered to as warrens both somewhat accurately and pejoratively). Life will be hard, space limited, and the pressures from ‘big’ people upset about the insatiably growing population may lead to some terrible outcomes.

Maybe that will be the focus of Joe’s next webcomic set in the Zebraverse. ;)

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1st Jun 2018, 3:07 PM

Someonesomewhere

This was discussed bevor, I think. Joe said something about the wizards helping to reduce birthrates or the rabbits moving underground.

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1st Jun 2018, 7:11 PM

Fafnir13

Ah, we’ve entered the stage where ‘a wizard did it’ can more or less take care of any issue.

I guess I can hold out hope that in a few hundred years a lagomorphic horde numbering in the billions will invade the surface world leaving it in cataclysmic ruin.

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1st Jun 2018, 6:27 PM

Valentine

Most of the discussion is on 799, with a further comment from Joe on 800.

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2nd Jun 2018, 1:00 AM

Joe England

Yeah, we had a good long talk about that some pages back. In short, the birth rate is going to align more closely to human norms. That, and the tendency to live underground, and maybe several other factors, will go a long way towards smoothing things over.

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2nd Jun 2018, 2:25 AM

Shikomekidomi

One must reckon that the death due to predation rate for ordinary humans, even in urban environments has probably increased greatly with the revitalization of magic, as well.

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2nd Jun 2018, 5:56 AM

Valentine

Relative to its current rate of just above zero? Sure. Relative to common causes of mortality? Probably not. If it happens enough that human societies generally become aware of it, there would be organized campaigns to deal with it in more or less humane ways. Keep in mind that Homo sapiens has never not been the top predator in its range, and that anything that tries to contest that spot typically gets hunted to at least local extinction. Even lions put humans higher on the pecking order than themselves as an instinctive response to hundreds of thousands of years facing stone-age humans. Individual monsters can be scary, but there aren't many things scarier than a hostile civilization, and a lot of the monsters are smart enough to know that.

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2nd Jun 2018, 10:51 AM

MattStriker

I once wrote a species of rabbit-people for a fantasy RPG setting. Their greatest cultural hero and saint was the woman who created an effective birth control method...

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1st Jun 2018, 2:57 PM

Someonesomewhere

Remind me again, who was Calk?

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1st Jun 2018, 2:59 PM

Someonesomewhere

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1st Jun 2018, 5:32 PM

Thoughtmachine

Mr Chalk is a very mysterious figure that appeared in Sandra's dreams or moment of uncousciousness a couple of times. He's not bad nor evil, but seemed to confront Sandra with the harsh truths of the reality she lives in.
Nobody except Sandra knows him and she has no clue of his identity. Nothing is known about him, except that he is not litteraly a good guy.

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2nd Jun 2018, 2:15 AM

NoRAd

I don't think we can confidently say he's not evil. At most, we know he didn't at the time want Sandra to die, but we don't know why he wanted her alive.

Later we got that he didn't want her trapped in Lord Incubus' prison, but again, we don't know WHY he wanted her to get out, and it was hinted that her breaking out would let him escape something as well.

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1st Jun 2018, 3:00 PM

Draco Machina

JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE

YOU DID IT! IT'S CHALK! It's CHALK, JOE!


Sorry, I'm just excited.

Also it's really fun to see Jack and Tomie's little pamphlet, and all of the other people and families too.

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1st Jun 2018, 3:16 PM

kilgaen

I like that Jack and Tomie made a little book.

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1st Jun 2018, 3:39 PM

Zander

Lol I wonder how Suze and Jen's reunion went they haven't seen each other since collage

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1st Jun 2018, 4:08 PM

Czaky

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1st Jun 2018, 4:40 PM

Mr. Casual

Betty is just the cutest. Zandra should wind-up with her, if she hasn't already.

Could be like a Titanic-movie situation. Just because you can't be with the one you love most, doesn't mean you can't be with somneone you love.

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1st Jun 2018, 6:22 PM

Valentine

Well now, have we just gotten a sneak peek at the cover of the Zebra Girl complete collection?

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1st Jun 2018, 7:35 PM

That Dave Guy

Is it just me or does Betty seem... afraid of Zandra? Like, what the hell did Zandra have to do to make a monster of Betty's caliber cow so thoroughly?

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1st Jun 2018, 7:40 PM

Brett Bellmore

Perhaps Betty has issues, and is trying to get past them?

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2nd Jun 2018, 12:29 AM

Random Reader

It actually strikes me as Betty isn't sure how best to express....certain emotions, like genuine, tender affection. Her body language seems to say "I'm not sure how to say this...I hope I don't screw it up."

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2nd Jun 2018, 10:40 AM

Dotcom

I'm getting more of a vibe that they are in a relationship, it's new to Betty, and she is trying hard to be a good girlfriend—that or it's something she's always been working on since they have been together. It's quite interesting to see them like this, but it makes sense given they both are outsiders to the rest of the world with ridiculously long lifespans. Betty might be one of the entities who could actually be intimate with Zandra, too.

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1st Jun 2018, 8:19 PM

Guest

"Oh, it's you."

The first words ever spoken in the comic... a prelude to say the last page or two, then?

I'm probably reading too much into it because I still want to see the final page be kind of like the first page. Complete with Suck-O-Vision...

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1st Jun 2018, 9:12 PM

Joe England

Oh, it was intentional alright. You called it.

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1st Jun 2018, 8:32 PM

KLCtheBookWorm

I am cackling over how long you kept the anticipation up about Chalk. That was epic.

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1st Jun 2018, 8:53 PM

Robin

Wait....is that a baby Tomie?!

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1st Jun 2018, 9:27 PM

Guest

Will Sandra's Journal be put back up at any point?

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2nd Jun 2018, 12:57 AM

Joe England

Yes, I'd like to make a section for it. I'll probably be tinkering with this website for quite a while after the comic's done.

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2nd Jun 2018, 3:43 AM

Guest

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2nd Jun 2018, 12:23 AM

Dr. Cynic

While I know you probably won't, I'd love to see the last page or so done in your old, painstakingly made Cross-hatching shading.

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2nd Jun 2018, 12:58 AM

Joe England

Well, you know, I never entirely gave it up. There's a bit of it on this page, in the bottom panels. It's just not too noticeable under the solid greys.

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2nd Jun 2018, 1:26 AM

Kwyjor

At last, Krull the Magnificent makes his triumphant entrance!

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2nd Jun 2018, 3:18 AM

Jeffrey H Wood

Maybe I missed it, but did Sandra ever ever ever see her mother after her transformation? I seem to recall Sandra offering excuses over the phone for her absences, but then the whole family thing seemed to fade away. As a parent, I myself fret about these kinds of scenarios.

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2nd Jun 2018, 6:11 AM

Valentine

The first panel of the previous page implies that Zandra is lying in the following story, but the details of what actually happened aren't clear.

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2nd Jun 2018, 10:47 AM

McKenzie

Yeah, it's one of those things that was left unanswered, but it is clear it did not have a happy ending even though Zandra has come to terms with it. That's very much like real life for some of us.

I'm a parent who had to disconnect from her own family for the sake of sanity and safety so I totally understand. Sometimes you have to feed your little one child-appropriate bits of the truth or completely distract them until they are mature enough to really handle the story. Given Zandra's mother is clearly dead because of the passage of time, a temporary white lie (especially right before bedtime—which is not a great time to drop super hurtful parts of your past on a kid) will not going to harm the little girl.

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2nd Jun 2018, 3:45 AM

Jeffrey H Wood

...and for the record, I detest stories that end this way, leaping forward in time to a tranquil fadeaway, youth and energy having given way to reflection and somnambulance. I would much rather have seen our young heroes leaping through the portal into a new adventure of unknown danger, freeze frame. Then, they would be vigorous and exciting. My opinion, 2 cents please.

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2nd Jun 2018, 4:26 AM

Joe England

Actually, Jeffrey, I have (or have had) the same attitude. I know exactly where you're coming from. So I was surprised when the story went this way. It taught me that satisfaction comes in different forms when you're reading a story than when you write it.

And in doing this I also found that I wasn't really missing the things you mentioned. In fact, quite the opposite. The future seemed a fertile place, vigorous and exciting in its own right. The promise of new and unknown adventures remains.

Granted, it's bittersweet. Some of the characters have ducked out of sight, though their bonds endure. But life is a rotating cast, and what you describe as somnambulance is merely the right to observe tranquility from time to time. The world is never a permanently tranquil place, either in real life or in fantasy.

They're still leaping through a portal, Jeffrey. It's just a wider portal, and a more measured leap.

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2nd Jun 2018, 6:40 PM

Sylfa

My favourite author for ending stories is David and Leigh Eddings. They tend to end their stories with the next big happy event, like a marriage, children being born or another type of celebration, with the characters catching up with eachother. Not entirely unlike this ending, its very good (so far I must add for sincerity).

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2nd Jun 2018, 3:49 AM

Tremork

One of Sams kids gives another one Bunny-Ears^^.

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2nd Jun 2018, 3:57 AM

Joe England

You noticed! Yes, I used to do that to my sister all the time when we took pictures.

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2nd Jun 2018, 7:55 AM

Tremork

Yes :D
One of my favoured Comics is coming to an end and so im gonna embrace every Page of it!

My Sisters and me used to do that too^^, especially on important Family Pictures :D

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2nd Jun 2018, 4:30 AM

Rex Ivan

Oh...
Is this what Mr Chalk actually is? Is he Death (in as much as a deamon can experience it)? Are we going to have a "time to go" moment?

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2nd Jun 2018, 7:39 AM

mindblown

omg, i think that you are right o_O . I dont know why it never occured to me. Its kind of obvious now. When Chalk first appeared we didnt see anything special except his "Flatline Mouth". And he breaks the fourth Wall saying that we as the Readers would have figured him out but how should we?
If you are an Artist and want one of youre Charakters represent Death as a shadowy like Figure something like the Flatline-mouth is a very clever trick.

Also, in the first Strips he is very indistinct, cause Sandra is "young" and death seems far away. In later Strips he became much clearer cause Zandra is older and/or the Situations she faces are much more dangerous. Maybe he is always there but only Demons could notice him?

Im certain that he is the personification of Death itself and the Moment Khazandra would see him clearly is the Moment she dies.

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2nd Jun 2018, 10:52 AM

McKenzie

Oh, I hope it's not a Watership Down movie ending. If it is I know it will be done well, but I would be sad if Zandra died—especially as it appears her character is still needed in the world. Besides, it feels like the embodiment of Death should really just be the Death from the Endless in this realm. ;)

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2nd Jun 2018, 6:49 PM

Sylfa

Clever thinking, but no I don't think so, there's more than one hint about her longevity.

For one she hasn't aged, for another she is very powerful (see pg 593) and then there's the hint from Viv (pg 596) which I interpret as being about both longevity and being a mother (second part proven ofc).

Although, that doesn't make it impossible that Mr Chalk is Death, but if he is I don't see it being a "time to go" moment, if nothing else, Khazandra would not go quietly with a child to protect and nurture...

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4th Jun 2018, 1:24 PM

not a dog

Is Chalk maybe the spirit of Zandra's book? She couldn't see him well earlier because she was young and hadn't yet embraced her story.He could break the fourth wall, because he knew what was happening, and also that there was a fourth wall and readers. And he is cruel because he is the mind of a book about a monster, as told by human bystanders for much of it.

I just think it's weird for her to be reading a book about herself. And then Chalk shows up, clearer than ever? So maybe the book is kind of like Tomie.

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2nd Jun 2018, 7:33 AM

Siansaar

Now THIS oughta be interesting...also I'm giggling like a schoolgirl at Jack and Tomie's "kid" XD

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2nd Jun 2018, 10:08 AM

BigBadCreepyBen

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2nd Jun 2018, 12:37 PM

fishamaphone

Is "Khazandra" pronounced with... *googles the proper term* a "voiceless uvular fricative," as in "J.S. Bach" or "L'Chaim"? "Kh" is often the notation used for that sound.

If not, can I headcannon it so that it is?

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2nd Jun 2018, 8:02 PM

Scott

I'm a 65 yr old guy that's been following this art from the start. Seeing this latest post and the photos of characters and their families I cried a little and thought please don't go. I guess it's something good when a story affects us like that. I wish they didn't have to go.

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2nd Jun 2018, 10:35 PM

Joe England

It honors me to have brought a tear to your eye, Scott. Thanks for being with us. And if we're going, at least we won't be going far.

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2nd Jun 2018, 8:29 PM

CyberSkull

Is she going to be murdered now? "Oh it's you" is a phrase found in almost every murder mystery, one of the last things the victim says.

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3rd Jun 2018, 2:21 AM

Auron

Also the first thing ever said in the comic.

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3rd Jun 2018, 12:44 AM

Enygma

Did.... did Jack and Tomie have a little Novelette if their own?

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3rd Jun 2018, 1:56 AM

Thormation

Wait...Jack and Tomie had a bouncing baby **book**?

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4th Jun 2018, 8:26 PM

Ahakarin

"Argh, this is hard... if only children came with a manual!"

"Dear, our child IS a manual."

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5th Jun 2018, 1:44 AM

Joe England

HAH! Good one.

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3rd Jun 2018, 4:55 AM

Kaunisenkeli

I absolutely love seeing Betty trying to be tender. She's just like me when I try to flirt, awkward and uncertain but she's clearly better at it than I am.

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3rd Jun 2018, 5:36 PM

Gydd

I'll admit, my reaction on seeing this was 'awww... Black Betty...'

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3rd Jun 2018, 7:43 AM

King Kidna

Still no news from the man with no face? This silhouette doesn't look like his but who knows...

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3rd Jun 2018, 4:31 PM

E_voyager

Friends family and lovers. i can't help but wonder what a life she's lived post war (if you can call what happened with the booferlady a war) so far.

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3rd Jun 2018, 6:42 PM

DeKing

Maybe... Is Mr. Chaulk the personification of Death. Could it be that, with her demonic, never-aging body and ever growing power, Sandra

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3rd Jun 2018, 6:51 PM

Guest

Zandra, was removed from his influence, his net of those destined to die. Everytime Zandra had encountered him she's learned something important or moved forward in some way. Even Wally's dream hinted at both him and Crystal living forever if he turned her, as Mr. Chaulk waved goodbye to them both. Will Wally live forever? Is Mr. Chaulk coming to tell Zandra he'll one day take her? Or will he and Zandra come to an agreement?

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3rd Jun 2018, 8:47 PM

The Wizard "G"

How has no one figured out that Mr. Chalk = God.

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3rd Jun 2018, 8:49 PM

The Wizard "G"

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4th Jun 2018, 1:37 AM

E_voyager

Well she did try to speak to God directly but as far as she knows no one answered. Sort of like the references to that video game I've yet to play; "you call for help, no one came."

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4th Jun 2018, 6:35 PM

Drakkenmensch

*Harold Duvase appears in the middle of a grassy field where the shining sun has a baby face and is immediately hugged by the Teletubbies*

"Dammit... this is WORSE than that planet where everyone is named 'Phil'. At least it's not Bobby Wobbly and the Oogie Loves... NO WAIT I DIDN'T MEAN THAT SER-"

*Harold poofs away*

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10th Jun 2018, 9:41 AM

Anon Forever Wandering

It's a small thing Joe, but seeing that Jen Stone is doing all right is a nice touch. Thanks.

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